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Postby Steve Bennett » Mon May 19, 2008 4:09 pm

You need another to tow behind it now for the tender Paul :lol:
Both loco and workboat are looking very good, a bit bigger pic would have been nice, thats come out pretty small :wink: .
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Postby scott b » Mon May 19, 2008 6:34 pm

Steve said
"You need another to tow behind it now for the tender Paul"

You will need really long couplers though :twisted:

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Postby Stu » Mon May 19, 2008 6:54 pm

Nice Paul.. A few axle length chocks & some chains and you'll be there.. :wink:
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Postby DCRfan » Tue May 20, 2008 6:03 am

Chocks and chains :shock: The loco should sit on blocks and linked to the propeller and when the captain says 'Full steam ahead' ....... :wink:
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what similar to the Steam yacht Gondola on Coniston water? Its boiler is an old ffesteniog england one! and hell is she fun to drive :D
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Postby Willow Creek Traction » Tue May 27, 2008 4:02 am

Just for fun, have a look at this;
http://www.rotortug.com/scripts/view_image.php?image=../images/gallery/2.jpg&mode=large

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Postby calme1952 » Tue May 27, 2008 7:25 am

Hi,
Incredible , if one dare to build this for a model show , all the visitors will think it is a joke .
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Postby AndyA » Tue May 27, 2008 9:45 am

Not by any means a joke, although watching them load does remind me of Monty Python. Our name for them is BaCat, Barge on Catamaran. Tow the cat into a river port, pump water into it so that it sinks. Manoeuvre the barges onto the cat, pump in air so that it floats, complete with barges, ready to go out to sea round to another river- or canal- connected port.

Means that there's no freight transshipment required at the Big Port, so no need to specially modify loaders/unloaders. When Annie, a Wey Navigation boat, used to work grain up to a mill at (I think) Godalming, one of the loaders at Tilbury had a special mod to reduce the flow-rate of hte grain, because otherwise the boat - large by British inland waterways standards, would have filled top to bottom in about 0.8 seconds (and hus just keep going down, down, down). :shock:

A friend had his UK style narrow-boat shipped to Holland on one of those. Now that did look very silly. But then, it looked silly when it was on hte canals over there as well. :)

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Postby DCRfan » Sat May 31, 2008 11:54 am

Cabin and engine room doors, bollards and rudder added. Figure to give an idea of size. Porthole glass still covered with Maskol & paint

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Roof vents and chimney still to be completed.
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Postby Steve Bennett » Sat May 31, 2008 2:18 pm

Really nice Paul, it's going to look great when finished.
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Postby Stu » Sat May 31, 2008 2:55 pm

Coming on well Paul.. 8)
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Postby DCRfan » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:48 am

Steve Bennett wrote:Really nice Paul, it's going to look great when finished.


Finished :shock: I had to look up the meaning of that word in the dictionary :oops:

Given my track record something else will interfere :lol: like the sheet of plywood I plan to purchase next weekend :roll:
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:26 am

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Steve Bennett wrote:Really nice Paul, it's going to look great when finished.


Finished :shock: I had to look up the meaning of that word in the dictionary :oops:

Given my track record something else will interfere :lol: like the sheet of plywood I plan to purchase next weekend :roll:


:twisted: You PURCHASE plywood :?: Must be paying you too much :!:
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:27 am

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Steve Bennett wrote:Really nice Paul, it's going to look great when finished.


Finished :shock: I had to look up the meaning of that word in the dictionary :oops:

Given my track record something else will interfere :lol: like the sheet of plywood I plan to purchase next weekend :roll:


:twisted: You PURCHASE plywood :?: Must be paying you too much :!:
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Postby bluey1989 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:13 am

Looks really well.

I had to build one like it for my small Expo Challenge layout, but only could build half of it due to the width of layout. I sprayed it red oxide at the weekend, but after seeing yours, will be masking it up tonight and spraying the sizes matt black.

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Postby DCRfan » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:19 am

Gavin Sowry wrote:
:twisted: You PURCHASE plywood :?: Must be paying you too much :!:



10% payrise on the way for poor under paid defence force personnel :P
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Postby DCRfan » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:49 am

I want to have a wharf crane with a scene where his Lordships coal is being unloaded. I seem to recall mention on another thread of an early use of some sort of coal box/container which matched the width of narrow boat holds but I can't find any mention on the internet.

Can anyone point me in the right direction or am I paddling up the wrong canal :?
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Postby Rockley Bottom » Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:13 pm

Paul

Have posted drawings of box for barges foe coal carrying. but cannot remember which heading :oops: :oops:
Will re-scan the drawings and post them in this one when I get home tonight

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Postby Rockley Bottom » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:10 pm

This is the coal box illustrated in a booklet I had which is titled

"Recollections of Boat Building at Lady shore for the Manchester, Bolton Bury Canal by Alec Waterson
They were sized so that they fitted side by side in the narrow boat which was an open Butty without a cabin as the Journey they were built for was completed in a day



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Postby Rockley Bottom » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:12 pm

There is a model of a dock side crane which could possibly handle these boxes in-
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Postby Stu » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:13 pm

Interesting...
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Postby Peter » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:58 pm

Fascinating stuff. Added to my layout ideas file.
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Postby Gavin Sowry » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:51 pm

DCRfan wrote:
Gavin Sowry wrote:
:twisted: You PURCHASE plywood :?: Must be paying you too much :!:



10% payrise on the way for poor under paid defence force personnel :P


:lol: 20% for ex Bus Driver who has accepted Management position....the roads in Stokes Valley will never be the same :!:
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Postby Peter » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:48 am

the roads in Stokes Valley will never be the same

Aye, safer :twisted: :P :lol:
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Postby DCRfan » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:26 am

Gavin Sowry wrote: :lol: 20% for ex Bus Driver who has accepted Management position....the roads in Stokes Valley will never be the same :!:


Just as long as your not the OHS Manager :shock: Now you'll be teaching all the drivers to chase bicylists :wink:
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