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Postby DCRfan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:43 am

Oh nice find sir, a Swedish Stridsvagn M37 which was really a Czech AH-IV.

Stop giving me ideas. I just spent the night sidetracked starting a civilanised ex RAF glider tug Beaverette Mk III or Beaverbug :oops:

The way I'm going there is likely to be more rustic armoured vehicles than trains on my next layout :shock:
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Postby Jim Snee » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:24 pm

Hi Michi

The reason why it looks similar to the Pzr 38(t) is that it was designed by the same people and built in the same factory. The Pzr 38 was Czech and not German, as many people believe.

What's interesting to me is the similarity to the Vicker's 6 ton - which effectively formed the basis of European tank design and manufacture during the 1920's and 30's. It was directly copied by the Poles and Russians and built under licence in almost as many places as the Bofors gun.

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Postby Oztrainz » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:49 pm

DCRfan wrote:Oh nice find sir, a Swedish Stridsvagn M37 which was really a Czech AH-IV.

Stop giving me ideas. I just spent the night sidetracked starting a civilanised ex RAF glider tug Beaverette Mk III or Beaverbug :oops:

The way I'm going there is likely to be more rustic armoured vehicles than trains on my next layout :shock:


Hi Paul,
How's this for another idea - I know that there were a pair of Bren gun carriers still in use out here hauling logs out of the Aussie bush until the 1960's. I actually saw them parked at the farm - sorry no photos
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Postby DCRfan » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:19 am

Oztrainz wrote:Hi Paul,
How's this for another idea - I know that there were a pair of Bren gun carriers still in use out here hauling logs out of the Aussie bush until the 1960's. I actually saw them parked at the farm - sorry no photos


Obviously your ESP is working but just a little fuzzy. I have often thought of making a Universal carrier but scratchbuilding wheels & tracks in 1:24th :cry:

So just this morning I brought a 1:35th Panzer II in a closing down sale as I plan to build, not a Universal carrier but a Vickers Utility model B tractor, a limited number of which were made for farmers in the 1930-40s similar to http://www.overvalwagen.com/tractors.html

You may have guessed this estate will be loaded with interesting machinery
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Postby marc_reusser » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:49 am

[Mispost...sorry]

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Postby DCRfan » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:44 am

I am weak :oops: so yet another project has been started. Image

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Postby DCRfan » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:56 am

A nice simple project so another interesting lineside vehicle nearly finished :D Just sorting out the track so it sags, adding the cab details, painting - red? and a driver to finish it.

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And proof the originals were used around railways although a bit on the wider side. This one will be very much a small farm tractor sized to match the small estate rollingstock.

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Postby Steve Bennett » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:31 pm

Looks like you are having too much fun there Paul :lol: be careful you dont overdose :) I hear cold turkey can be very depressing :wink: .
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Postby Simon Andrews » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:37 pm

Intresting looking tractor Paul 8)
:idea: :arrow: Now what about motorising it so it can run along the trackbed and push some wagons just like the one in the prototype picture :!: :twisted:

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Postby docnjoj » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:40 pm

Is that tractor pushing the boxcar with a metal beam? Dodnt they used to use "poles" to do that, usually on paralle tracks?
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Postby Dave Westall » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:52 pm

Doc, it appears to me to be pushing it with a wooden beam mounted on the tractor that lines up with the wagon buffers.
All very well though until the tractor has to climb over the diverging rail at a point/turnout. Suspect it's a publicity photo only.

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Postby DCRfan » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:53 am

Sorry no motor to power the tractor or press stud to attach it to the back of a wagon, just glue and some weights to make the track sag 'naturally' :wink:

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Postby DCRfan » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:14 am

A new estate worker out of a Fijimi Garage & Tools Mechanic set tries out the tractor which now has a larger exhaust fitted.

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Postby Steve Welch » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:39 am

Looks neat. I don't know why but it reminds me of something off 'Thunderbirds'. Hmmmm....Tracey Island, the ultimate pizza layout.... :)

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Postby DCRfan » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:56 am

Steve Welch wrote:Looks neat. I don't know why but it reminds me of something off 'Thunderbirds'. Hmmmm....Tracey Island, the ultimate pizza layout.... :)


As with this Vickers Carden-Loyd the Thunderbirds are famous British technology :wink:
While searching for 'vickers tractor' by pure coincidence I just happened to run across this website yesterday
http://www.martinbowersmodelworld.com/html/the_mole.html

A Gn15 Thunderbirds Island - hmmm - but how to make the coconut trees fold down :P
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Postby rue_d_etropal » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:55 pm

I gnew though girder bridge and footbridge kits were versatile, but never noticed them in Thunderbirds. :roll:
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Postby dana » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:28 am

DCRfan wrote:A Gn15 Thunderbirds Island - hmmm - but how to make the coconut trees fold down :P


simple you place it in the aluatians ,lots of snow and trees but no coconuts :twisted: .
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Postby DCRfan » Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:49 am

While researching the early model Beaverette I became interested in the later Beaverette Mk 3 or Beaverbug that was used for airfield defence by the RAF. The model represents one modified late/post war by removing the upper body so it could be used to tow gliders.
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This will now be an estate runabout 8) and when finished and all these vehicles are out on my blood I can return to rail subjects :D
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Postby scott b » Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:20 pm

You keep finding these interesting vehicles Paul and then finding the odd adaptations, very good work, are you building the glider to match? It is amazing where one slight turn can lead you in this hobby!
Did you finish the Swiss fort with the armoured mobile gun?

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Postby KEG » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:34 pm

Hi,

I don´t think, they towed the gliders with the vehicle. I rather believe, they pull out the cable from the towing winch to the starting point.

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Postby DCRfan » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:58 am

Correct, the Beaverbug towed the glider SLOWLY into launch position and pulled the tow line from the winch to the gliders nose. Beaverbug also towed the launch winch trailer into position.

Am I building the glider NOOOOOOOOOO afterall I need some room on the layout for the railway although I did think of a folded up glider visible in the back of a converted horse stable :wink:
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Postby Jim Snee » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:26 am

Hi Paul

how about one of these:http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/aircraft/Primary-Glider/zogling.php

It wouldn't take up too much room, and looking at the diagrams, they were towed by cars!

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Postby DCRfan » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:04 am

Perhaps have it sailing around overhead :lol:
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Postby Steve Bennett » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:35 am



Brings back memories, had many flights in Grasshoppers when I was a cadet. Most of the time we used a Land Rover to tow it into the air, the catapault launch was pretty exciting though :roll: not sure I would want to do it now though, I'm a (little) bit more sensible these days :wink: .
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Postby DCRfan » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:37 pm

I was having flashbacks to by ATC gliding days as well :)
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